Tain’t No Use


Tain’t No Use

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IMPORT 2023 – MS072023CD

The Viper Club – Tain’t No Use – a quartet who revisit the long-overlooked partnership of African American musicians Stuff Smith and Jonah Jones (the violinist and trumpeter whose joyous, inventive music making as the Onyx Club opened up the sound of swing in the mid-to-late 1930s)


Tain’t No Use by The Viper Club




What happens when you assemble four of Europe’s foremost jazz musicians playing 17 tunes from an era when popular music was “hot”? The answer is The Viper Club – a quartet who revisit the long-overlooked partnership of African American musicians Stuff Smith and Jonah Jones (the violinist and trumpeter whose joyous, inventive music making as the Onyx Club opened up the sound of swing in the mid-to-late 1930s).
Garth Cartwright




a vibrant, unpredictable – and funky – set
Dangerously thrilling music
Musicians who keep the tradition alive by renewing and updating it
This band are no museum piece; the music still speaks to anyone with a pulse..



A total success and undoubtedly one of the albums of the year
Viper club. What is it? The quartet takes its name from a piece written in 1936 by the violinist Stuff Smith, “You’se a viper,” which quickly became a standard. Viper club is the Tcha Limberger trio (Tcha Limberger, violin, vocals, Dave Kelbie, guitar, and Sébastien Girardot, double bass) to which the French trumpeter Jérôme Etcheberry, a sought-after sideman and current leader of Satchmocracy, an octet (in which Sébastien Girardot is also found), joined. Satchmocracy pays tribute to the father of jazz, and its two recent albums (on Camille productions) have been acclaimed by critics.
This is indeed the ideal team to celebrate a largely forgotten group, that of Stuff Smith and his Onyx club band (named after the New York club where the group began), one of the first orchestras to bring swing to life in the mid-1930s, with an original lineup putting the violin at the forefront of jazz in partnership with a trumpet, that of the brilliant Jonah Jones.
One of the best rhythm sections of this so-called classical jazz (Dave Kelbie, a metronomic accompanist, and Sébastien Girardot, whose authority and solid roundness of the double bass are highlighted in several tracks) more than compensates for the absence of piano and drums in Stuff Smith’s Onyx club. Flexible, light, and remarkably effective, this true swing machine lays the groundwork for two prominent soloists. A talented multi-instrumentalist (he also plays guitar and clarinet), Tcha Limberger feels at home in music. Very connected to Hungarian music and Gypsy swing (he is the son of guitarist Vivi Limberger, who played in the 70s/80s with Fapy Lafertin’s Waso group), Tcha Limberger practices high-flying jazz here, sometimes with bluesy accents (cf Wabash blues). A violinist with a burning sound and incredible drive, he combines sensitivity, swing, and lyricism in his constantly inventive improvisations (cf his incendiary interventions on “I’m putting all my eggs,” “Undecided,” or “S’wonderful,” for example). On half of the tracks, Tcha also reveals himself as a passionate singer who lives the music, with his bandmates occasionally providing backing vocals.
Freely inspired by this rare violin-trumpet association of Smith and Jones, Le Viper club takes on 5 titles from their repertoire (“Taint’ no use,” “Onyx club spree,” “I hope Gabriel hears my music…”) and also refreshes standards such as “After you’ve gone,” “My Blue heaven,” “Swanee river,” “Wabash blues…”). Let’s take “Undecided,”; we’ve heard it a thousand times, of course, but never with this instrumentation, rarely in such a high-end version with breathtaking solos, and here it is sung and scatted. Because, even if they are only four, the musicians sound like a real orchestra, thanks in particular to the power of Jérôme Etcheberry’s trumpet, always flamboyant and very spirited, combining fierce energy and fertile imagination, but also thanks to impeccable execution and arrangements: when one presents the theme or solos, the other punctuates their speech with subtle counterpoints (cf “It ain’t no use”) or solos in parallel.
This is music that hasn’t aged, especially when renewed with this passion and freshness by jazz aesthetes of this caliber. A total success and undoubtedly one of the albums of the year.

THE TIMES UK 15.11.2023 ****
This quartet, led by the French trumpeter Jérôme Etcheberry and the Belgian violinist Tcha Limberger, generates effortless momentum
If there’s one particularly encouraging trait to the current jazz revival in Britain, it’s that newcomers such as Ezra Collective aren’t afraid of a little unassuming, unpretentious joie de vivre. Back in the 1930s, when the fiddle player Stuff Smith and the trumpeter Jonah Jones were one of the most in-demand acts on 52nd Street, these things were, of course, taken for granted.

So, this is an apt moment for 21st-century musicians to revisit the extrovert brand of hot jazz and swing that Smith and Jones recorded nine decades or so ago. Led by the French trumpeter Jérôme Etcheberry and the renowned Belgian manouche violinist Tcha Limberger, the Viper Club may be a compact, drummerless quartet, yet they generate effortless momentum thanks to the unobtrusive rhythm guitar of Dave Kelbie and the double bass of Sébastien Girardot. (If those two names are familiar, it’s because I’ve often raved about their work in another debonair ensemble, Django à la Créole, a vehicle for that suave American clarinettist Evan Christopher.) There’s a hint of that group’s ability to inject a Latin tinge on the version of Ballin’ the Jack on this disc, a tune that Jelly Roll Morton made his own. After a languid opening, Etcheberry and Limberger take flight with concise solos. As on Smith and Jones’s own vintage records, there’s never a risk that the string instrument will be overwhelmed. And on the vocal numbers, including the genial I Hope Gabriel Likes My Music, Limberger is a thoroughly relaxed and idiomatic presence. Elsewhere,Viper’s Moan becomes an exercise in understated, bluesy swing. This band are no museum piece; the music still speaks to anyone with a pulse..

Tain’t No Use by The Viper Club
When the great violinist Stuff Smith arrived in New York in 1936, he and trumpeter Jonah Jones put together a small orchestra that for four years graced the Onyx Club on 52nd Street.
It’s this adventure that Jérôme Etcheberry, Tcha Limberger, Sébastien Girardot and Dave Kelbie evoke here in the quartet The Viper Club, which takes its name from You’ Se a Viper, Stuff Smith’s famous composition whose double-entendre lyrics allude to marijuana, a highly prized substance at the time.
Taking up the repertoire of Stuff Smith’s Onyx Club Orchestra, they perform music whose subtleties they know.
A skilled vocalist and inventive soloist, Tcha Limberger uses all the power of his violin to phrase with energy.
And it takes a lot of energy to play alongside a trumpeter of the calibre of Jérôme Etcheberry, who recently devoted two albums (Satchmocracy) to Louis Armstrong, whose disciple Jonah Jones was.
In top form and in his element, Jérôme plays with flamboyance, lining up remarkably well-constructed choruses full of surprises.
Double bassist Sébastien Girardot and guitarist Dave Kelbie make up for the absence of piano and drums on the original recordings by creating a rhythmic pulse that’s both firm and supple, and a harmonic carpet that inspires the two soloists.
Musicians who keep the tradition alive by renewing and updating it.

JAZZ LIVES US 30.10.2023
I played a few tracks from this new CD for a friend, and her response was simple, “It’s like the past, but only better!” That seemed if not heresy, a paradox, and I asked her to explain. “Well, they sound at first like Stuff Smith and his Onyx Club Boys, which is a wonderful thing, but then again, they remind me of Bill Coleman with Stephane and Django, of Fats, of Louis, of any number of memorable Thirties records. But the best part is that they are alive and well: this isn’t an archaeological trip into Jazz Repertory: we can hear and see them in 2023!”
In case you think my friend is being hyperbolic, I direct you to the post I wrote about the Viper Club in November 2022.
The musicianship is extraordinary: there isn’t a dull or formulaic passage on the disc. It’s a cliche, but the four heroes play as if the fate of the world depended on their swing. And they rescue us, no question. I can testify to this because I nearly ruined my breakfast the other morning because of this disc. Through the happy generosity of the OAO, I now have a very fine CD player / radio on the kitchen counter. I started the disc while I was making breakfast, and got so delightedly engrossed in one track, BABY BROWN, that I kept it on repeat while my eggs and toast came near to inedibility. Dangerously thrilling music, even if you’re not cooking.
Many wonderful bands do the hard work of reproducing venerable recorded performances, and when they succeed, they sound exactly like the Brunswick GOT THE JITTERS by Don Redman or the like. This is a majestic accomplishment, and I know how much labor and sensitivity it requires. But the Viper Club has more expansive goals in mind: to inhabit a way of playing, a way of looking at life, as well as evoking their and our heroes. They are free-range in that their recording of, let’s say, a Stuff Smith composition will bring back memories of an Onyx Club performance, but also of other parallel wizardries.
So the imaginary jukebox is exploded in the best ways, as if Wingy and Henry Red had stopped in to jam with Stephane and Wilson Myers. A panorama, a coloring book without lines to hold back their spirits. Louis would have called it Dee-lightful. And so do I.
A digression. While I was on YouTube, looking for audio-visual evidence for this post (I had naively typed in “viper club”) what came up was a new horror film called THE VIPER CLUB, starring Susan Sarandon. Sarandon is a great actress. But I’ll take this band any day, and there’s not a horrifying note to be found when they play.

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Tain’t No Use by The Viper Club
Who remembers Stuff Smith “The Crazy Violin Genius” and Jonah Jones “Louis Armstrong Second”? They made their mark on the jazz scene in the late 1930s during epic concerts at the Onyx Club in New York.
Tcha Limberger and Jérôme Etcheberry remembered it and this album is a tribute to this hot jazz , to the swing of this unusual team of trumpet and violin. With them, the Franco-Australian Sébastien Girardot and the British Dave Kelbie provide a rhythm without a drummer but just as effective.
Jérôme Etcheberry, our French Armstrong who paid tribute to him with his two albums “Satchmocracy” and Tcha Limberger the multi-instrumentalist with gypsy origins, immersed in popular music from the East, occupy the front of the stage dialoguing and tirelessly improvising with a swing virtuoso full of vitality. The live recording has a real vintage sound, you are instantly transported to the days of the Onyx Club. The tradition continues.
No monkey perched on Tcha’s shoulder like his extravagant predecessor but a reference for the name of the group to his composition “You’re A Viper” (or also “The reefer Song”, the song of the joint…) banned by the US government for its celebration of marijuana use. And yes, this so-called classical jazz was also already incendiary and the Viper Club reminds us of this brilliantly.
And so contrary to the title of this album meaning “It’s useless” we find it very useful!

The Viper Club: Tain’t No Use
Based around the Onyx Club band led by Stuff Smith and Jonah Jones in the 1930s this is as good as it gets when it comes to music that swings. Imagine a truncated version of The House of the Black Gardenia and you’re getting close.
French trumpet player Etcheberry is amazingly powerful without coming across as brash or flamboyant and, alongside Belgian violinist and vocalist Limberger the duo bring pre-war NYC to life. Backed by (quote) ‘the Rolls Royce of rhythm sections’ – no Citroëns or Peugeots for these guys – in the form of French bassist Girardot and British guitarist Kelbie the music swings like only music from that era can.
A choice selection of classic songs including a few vocals by Limburger this is the era personified. It doesn’t get any better than this or does it…? On November 5, at the Classic Jazz Party, Rico Tomasso, Emma Fisk, Josh Duffee and a few others will be mining this rich seam. Win, lose or draw, that too is going to be well worth hearing.

JAZZ HALO B 19.11.2023
For fans of legendary hot jazz with a nuanced twist
The Viper Club, with Belgian violinist Tcha Limberger and French trumpeter Jérôme Etcheberry at the forefront, draws inspiration for ‘Tain’t No Use’ loosely from the recordings of violinist Stuff Smith and trumpeter Jonah Jones at the Onyx Club in New York in the mid-1930s. Stuff Smith (1909-1967) was an American swing violinist best known for his track ‘If You’re a Viper’ (1936), hence The Viper Club. American trumpeter Jonah Jones (1909-2000), nicknamed King Louis II, was an obvious reference to Louis Armstrong.
Guitarist Dave Kelbie wants to emphasize that with this quartet, they aim for their own yet serene approach. The expressive dialogue between violin and trumpet is deeply rooted in blues, swinging authentically in style with Australian bassist Sebastien Girardot and British guitarist Dave Kelbie, described as ‘the Rolls Royce of rhythm sections.’
With a touch of vocals and occasional whistling (‘Baby Brown’), they present a carefully curated repertoire of infectious pre-war jazz with standards such as ‘My Blue Heaven,’ ‘Lawd you made the night too long’ (Victor Young), ‘Tain’t no use’ (Burton Lane), ‘I’m crazy ‘bout my baby’ (Fats Waller), ‘’s Wonderful’ (George Gershwin), ‘I’m putting all my eggs in one basket,’ ‘My Walking Stick’ (Irving Berlin), ‘After you’ve gone’ (Turner Layton/Hernry Creamer). ‘Vipers moan’ (Willie Bryant) and ‘Onyx club spree’ (Stuff Smith) clearly reference the original inspiration. A total of 17 tracks evoke the ‘hot’ atmosphere of the New York club scene in the 1930s-40s.
With trumpeter Jérôme Etcheberry, who recently released tribute albums to Louis Armstrong, Tcha Limberger, who masters the manouche jazz style on the violin like no other, guitarist Dave Kelbie, who excels in the gypsy style of Django, and Sebastien Girardot, who develops a solid bass line reminiscent of New Orleans swing and gypsy style, The Viper Club brings together today’s living and vibrant top musicians performing at the highest level of memorable jazz from the 1930s.
For fans of legendary hot jazz with a nuanced twist.

Additional information

Weight 63 g
Dimensions 14 × 13 × 1 cm

Produit par Michel Stochitch

Enregistré au studio de Meudon par Julien Bassères
les 20, 21 et 22 juin 2023

Mixing par Dougal Lott et Dave Kelbie au Steven Sonics
le 18 juillet 2023

Mastering par Julien Bassères juillet 2023 au Studio Meudon

Photos: Zoé Forget et Julien Bassères

Design et layout: Dave Kelbie

Liner notes: Garth Cartwright

12 reviews for Tain’t No Use

  1. hoelykit (verified owner)

    A great CD by four talented musicians steeped in the music, guaranteed to make your feet tap and put a smile on your face. Highly recommended.

  2. Nick Sansone (verified owner)

    Absolutely brilliant. Seriously swinging solos and fantastic ensemble work. Completely authentic with regards to the tradition and historical sound, yet fresh with new ideas and a unique voice. It reminds me of the Armstrong’s Hot Fives, with the violin taking the role of clarinet and piano at times. Some of the best music I’ve heard in a long time.

  3. John Orton (verified owner)

    Wonderful swing music from the Viper Club quartet – the sounds of the lead horn and fiddle are brilliant as you would expect from Etchberry and Limberger but, to me the driving rhythm that Kelbie and Girardot produce take this to another level of finger snapping, foot tapping visceral pleasure. My favourite track is ~Smoke Rings -new to me -with an memorable duet between the whistling violin and the soulful guitar chords.

  4. J.Larsen (verified owner)

    Great swing provided by this excellent quartet excellently performed by all four involved. The band of course rewokes The Onyx Club Boys with Stuff and Jonah in front, but the four guys definitly have a sound of their own which is up to date, that’s like it ought to be! This is not just melodies from the reefer song book, the music is both hot and sweet – The Viper Club is presenting the real killin’ jive, recommended to all true swing fans!

  5. Rafael (verified owner)

    I’m with the other 5* reviews!

  6. Richard Cox-Smith (verified owner)

    What an Excellent CD! I was expecting good things from this line up of exceptional musicians and was not dissapointed. The performances are first class and they offer a well chosen collection of 17 Hot Jazz standards from the 30’s era, gleaned from the repertoire of the Onyx Club. Superb. It is very well recorded and the effect is that you feel you are there amongst them, having a very good time!

  7. Mike Moroney (verified owner)

    If you believe that ‘Swing is the Thing’ then this CD is for you. Music that is highlighted by front line brilliance underlined by sympathetic and solid rhythmic drive. Rejuvenated classic jazz at its best!!!

  8. Bill Lee (verified owner)

    I had been waiting the arrival of a Viper Club recording since Dave began adding snippets of the group earlier in the year. The arrival of Tain’t No Use did not disappoint: wonderful swinging music, great interplay twixt the trumpet and violin with Tcha belting out the vocals and the engine-room bass and guitar driving everything along. Grab a copy now!!

  9. Martin Bates (verified owner)

    This is a wonderful album which is now a firm favourite when driving around or sitting in front of my hifi. I haven’t heard this group live but from the first bars “Lawd you made the night too long” until the final notes drift away this group swing like mad. The rhythm section purr along beneath the trumpet and violin in a wonderful way. One of the best recordings I have heard in the last few years. Pick up a copy asap and you will not regret it. 5/5 from me.

  10. Richard Norman (verified owner)

    Classic jazz played in the spirit of the original by some great instrumentalists.

  11. Vesta Kroese (verified owner)

    absolutely love it. Nourishment for my soul, an inspiration for my visual arts practice and such good fun to practice my tap dancing improv skills! Hope to hear Tcha again sometime life. Have just gifted these sounds to my sister for her bday, and recommend this album as a pure gift to the world.

  12. Carlo Stupiggia

    The beatiful masterpieces from the origin of the hot jazz music, recorded in a vintage “Onyx”atmosphere (maybe only with one mic?) by four top musicians. This is a cult session that will remain “gold” in the time to come.

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